Bobby Bosler: So welcome, everybody. I know there may be a couple people that are going to be filtering in over the next little bit, but I think many of you are aware that not too long ago, there was a pretty significant moment that happened when in Orem, Utah, at the Turning Point USA event, Charlie Kirk was in the midst of speaking to a crowd of thousands of college students. And of course, as I’m sure every one of you.

here in the room know, a shot rang out and he was murdered. I don’t know. Everybody can probably mention where they were when that happened.

And in fact, what my plan is here today is this is significant. This is far more significant than just a person that got killed. This was very much a representative moment.

And I think most of us, including myself, when we began to examine this man’s life after the fact, we discovered there were some pretty special things there. And so I know that I know myself, I was very impacted. If you all listened to the podcast we had a few weeks ago, Dr.

Jim and I talked to Ryan Swanson. Ryan was there at the memorial service, which that itself was a very significant moment, frankly, in our country, in the culture of our country, where the gospel went forward with such boldness and frankly, with such power. And so I suppose what I wanted to do here to start is maybe just get some initial reflections, maybe just from the human interest side of things.

How did you, how did we find out about that? How did we discover? Where were you?

What was going on? How did you, did you see the video? Did somebody tell you that?

So on and so forth. And then I want to get a little bit more of just our reactions to both his death and then the memorial service and what that might mean for these young people right here in this room. So I guess I’ll go ahead and start.

I was at the house where I’m at in Fairmont, West Virginia. I was on my phone just looking at a couple videos. I saw a Charlie Kirk video, which wasn’t unusual, on one of my social media feeds.

And I didn’t see any of the text. I just saw that he was there and he was speaking in front of a bunch of people. Didn’t realize this was a clip of his assassination.

And just totally shocked, saw in that video that he got shot. And of course, he fell over and everything. I literally sat in that chair.

And of course, there were all kinds of other videos coming through on the feed, just completely shocked and horrified that such a public shooting, such, frankly, a graphic shooting had taken place. And over the next several hours as it was processing, what was the motivation? What was going on?

Frankly, I’ll just be honest with you. I wept. over what had happened there.

I was shaken for days, honestly. I was shaken. Just to be perfectly honest with me, in a certain sense, it kind of put me in a little bit of a funk because as a public speaker, as someone who speaks in front of people, you just think, what was this?

What was this moment? And as I began to process it over a couple of days, just realized this is a very significant moment in our country. So I don’t know if somebody else wants to just share, maybe just from a front end here, where you were when you heard this, and maybe some of your initial reactions.

Panelist 1: just right at the outset. I was in my office. I had my phone on Do Not Disturb.

I was getting ready for our Wednesday night prayer meeting, and my phone started ringing, which means that it’s my wife. She’s the only one that has, she can break the Do Not Disturb. So I went over to get the phone.

She was, her vehicle had broke down. So I talked to her, found out where she was, made sure she was okay. I hung up, was going to go to the map and find out how to get to her.

And there was a message on my phone from a number that I didn’t have programmed in my phone. And I clicked on that message and it was just a thumbnail of Charlie Kirk under a tent. And I thought, man, who sent me this?

What is this about? And I just clicked on it and did not have, I had no context. I just saw charlie kirk get shot right and then while i was looking at that trying to figure out is this ai what did i just see and i mean i’m just kind of reeling then my my daughter juliana called me she’s 22 she called me she’s dad they just shot charlie kirk and um and same experience i just.

just went went kind of numb i went made sure my wife was okay and then i left my office and went home and found out that he had died and then just began to prepare for how I was going to lead the church that night. And I just spent time in prayer, but that was a very, very surreal moment. Yeah.

Challenging moment. Challenging moment. I was sitting in my office and I just happened to,.

Panelist 2: you know, that little lovely green dot on your WhatsApp that says you have somebody that posts and I don’t want to like always see the post, but I just drive me nuts that it was sitting there. I just clicked on it. Didn’t even click on the thumbnail.

Just saw somebody from one of our graduates had put out Charlie Kirk has been shot. I could see that on my computer, really small. So I rushed and Googled it or looked it up.

And once again, wasn’t the words. You know, I didn’t, I saw a video pull up and I was thinking a video was going to be something from a distance or something. I saw the video as well.

and, uh, sat in my office and I, as somebody who’s met Charlie Kirk, um, he didn’t know me, but, um, met him and talked to him for a few minutes and got to hear him speak at a pastor’s, uh, turning point, uh, faith, uh, thing that they had here in Wisconsin three years ago, I believe, and got to really just enjoy hearing him speak. And then got to talk to him for a couple minutes, got a.

picture and stuff. Um, he is, he was the real deal. I mean, he’s what you see.

And he is that kind of guy. He’s very tall, by the way. I look very short.

I’m not the shortest guy in the world. I’m very short compared to him. But he’s a very sweet guy, very nice, very busy.

I mean, he flew in, drove in just for that. It was flying back out to some other place in the country that just were after us. And, you know, bodyguards, I noticed there, bodyguards everywhere with him three years ago.

But so just having met him, it was a little more personal that way. I just sat in my office, same thing, numb. I just didn’t know what to do.

I felt like the air had been sucked out. And in that time, that was a Wednesday afternoon. Normally the building is, you know, filled with people going every direction.

Nobody was around for some reason. Maybe there was. I just couldn’t.

So I got up to walk to find somebody because it was that, it was just, it just was, I was reeling. And I couldn’t find anybody. I looked around and came back to my office and kept checking what was going on the news.

And then I had to kind of, the college students started weighing in. I started hearing about it. So we were, I was trying to keep the college updated.

Those that didn’t have as much access to the news and stuff. And then having to talk to them because I had corral and then different aspects of the freshman that night. And so once again, I had to prepare to talk to people even through the toughness of it.

And it was, so there was definitely a personal, just a more of a shock factor of somebody you’ve met. You don’t know him personally as a friend. I did listen to his show quite a bit and I knew his voice.

And, you know, here we go. If you listen to his podcast, you kind of knew his cadence and how things rolled with him. So it was very much a shock to them.

And then obviously a lot of our guys in our college had kind of followed him or had done that. So it was definitely something I had to kind of process and then also had to help other people as well in that moment. So it was, it was definitely a surreal, surreal time.

Bobby Bosler: You know, I was not alive for some of the big assassinations of the past, like, you know, John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King. But I don’t know if some of those folks that might be around, just kind of how that hits you with relation.

Well, I assume Dr. Jim was around then, too. But I don’t know if you have any thoughts, just kind of how that compared and so on.

Panelist 3: Dr. Jim was too young to remember for.

Panelist 4: Yeah, I don’t remember JFK, but I do remember RFK.

Panelist 3: MLK, but sure. I was, I think, second grade, and all of a sudden, everybody was taken to the lunchroom in my elementary school, and there on the TV that was in there, they were showing what was going on, and nobody, you couldn’t hear a pin drop. However, for me, when it began to sink in that he actually died and the whole thing.

I would say it was more traumatic about Kirk than it was even the president. So that shakes you that the president was killed, you know, but, um,.

Bobby Bosler: they were, they were on the same level for sure. And, and why do we think, and again, just kind of to foster discussion here, why was it so significant here this time around that, that a guy like Charlie Kirk would be murdered in that way. I don’t know if you have any thoughts for Charlie.

Panelist 3: I think because he actually, he has spoken to the hearts of a young generation and we knew it. I mean, he single-handedly with what he did, I said this at the time of the election, he put Trump in office because he changed the equation in Wisconsin. There were college students that never voted, and teens.

I mean, it’s amazing what he did. And he was resonating with the entire country. And so I think it was because he was such a bold proclaimer of the truth for us as believers.

He was truly a martyr, and it shook us. You know, Kennedy was not a martyr for truth. And so I think it went to the core of who we are, that this man actually sacrificed his life to reach a generation of young people that out of paganism, secularism, were being reached with the gospel.

Maybe let me just ask this question out there.

Bobby Bosler: How many of you would say prior to the assassination, you knew who Charlie Kirk was? Can I just get your hands? So prior to him getting killed.

Okay. Put your hands down. Maybe let’s get it a little bit more dialed in.

how many would say you had seen more than one of one of his videos of him talking to somebody prior to the assassination prior so sufficient to say he was somebody you were not only aware of but you’d seen how he engaged people right um and and i think all of us because again many of you recognize he engaged people yes on political things yes on social issues but i don’t know personally, one thing I didn’t.

realize he had engaged people on so much was the matter of the gospel. Um, and, uh, it seemed like, like some of these street evangelists that you see on YouTube, right? This guy, he regularly was taking opportunities to point people to Jesus Christ.

Panelist 2: Do you have something? I just want to say something. I expect that to happen with all those hands up, um, in our circles, in our church, even in our circles, the amount of adults, like millennials and above that did not know his name before this shooting would have been staggering but ever this has happened everywhere every time we ask for us we click on the picture every time you’ve asked a young person crowd they all know.

who he is that’s proof of the of the the reach yet i just want to make the comment that i expected it to be across the board and that’s that’s truly what it was yeah absolutely yeah you.

Bobby Bosler: know why is that why is it that the young people were more aware of him than others i don’t know that i have an answer to that necessarily yes absolutely i have three daughters uh deanna is.

Panelist 1: 28 brianna is 26 juliana is 22 my son santa anna is no i’m just kidding um so i have three daughters and back years ago when they were teenagers prager u was putting out a lot of like the the animated type quick videos five ten minute videos on constitutional history american revolution those kind of things and so i had turned the girls attention to that and so my girls kind of as teenagers were watching a lot.

of those things with guys like Dennis Prager, Will Witt, and some of those guys. Well, then when Charlie Kirk died that Wednesday afternoon, I was at home and my girls all called me and we just conference called. So I had all three of my daughters on and we were just talking and they were devastated.

And I said to them, but Bobby, Girls, I didn’t realize that you guys were so engaged with Charlie Kirk. What was the connection here with Charlie Kirk? And they said, Dad, in the hallways of the school and in the dorm rooms at our college, our classmates had questions about homosexual marriage.

Like they were asking things like, well, what’s wrong with two people loving each other if it’s not hurting anybody else, they love each other. We don’t understand what’s wrong with that. So not, they were questioning behind the scenes, you know, what’s wrong with an abortion in the first trimester if you don’t want to have a baby?

And she said, our friends and our circles and our churches and our Christian colleges were asking those questions. And we, we would find videos that would give us answers to go tell, to have a way, because we knew it was wrong, but how do we articulate that? And here’s why I think the younger generation knew who Charlie Kirk was, because he was boldly giving clear, truthful answers that the church was not giving.

And it was a first Peter 3 15, be ready always to give a reason to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear with respect. And that’s what he did. Boldness and yet respectfulness.

He spoke that truth and they were getting answers to questions. So I asked my girls in our school, people were asking those questions. Yeah.

well, why didn’t you come ask me? They’re like, because you would have gone and kicked those kids out of school.

Bobby Bosler: Absolutely. You know, I do think that’s a big deal. A big deal, the point that you made, because you guys have a lot of questions that you’re probably afraid to ask some people, aren’t you?

In fact, why don’t you say, how many of you say you’ve got genuine questions gnawing at you that maybe sometimes you’re afraid of asking an adult? Are there any folks who’ve got those kinds of questions? I see you’re afraid of just right here in your hand.

Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, and even if it’s not in here, out there, there are lots of questions.

And like Brother Miller said, Charlie Kirk was answering those questions, not ignoring them, not pretending like those issues aren’t real issues. I think it’s easy for some of us who maybe are more established in what we believe to just assume nobody else asked these questions. But they were talking and he was talking about things that nobody else was talking about with such clarity.

And that’s why it’s important for us, for you guys, honestly, to understand these things with clarity and then to articulate it with clarity. I don’t know, Dr. Jim, over there, if you can maybe, Ryan had talked a little bit about how Charlie had pioneered some things and just, he was a guy who was willing to go out on a limb.

I don’t know if you want, we talked about it a little bit at the podcast episode, maybe repeat a little bit of what Ryan had to say there.

Panelist 4: Well, I can’t remember exactly what he said, but I do say he pioneered a different methodology. You know, I think he went on this very first campus when he was just the age of some of you and put up a sign and said, big government. I think he used the word sucks.

I’m not sure that’d be the word I’d use, but anyway. And he said, let’s talk. And he began to engage people one-on-one.

I don’t think he would have even envisioned what happened. He met a need. He hit something that was the mainstream.

And sometimes, how do I say this? When I’ve studied youth movements, youth movements usually come, they’re very simple. They have just a couple of concepts.

They’re not hard to reproduce. And they, at that point, at that time, they meet a need. For instance, one of the youth movements was Sunday school.

What was the need? Well, there was no public education. People didn’t know how to read.

So they would go to school and churches would teach them how to read using the Bible. That was Sunday school. And Sunday school met a need and people got saved.

It was a remarkable thing. And then, of course, you have the issue of the YMCA. I know right now most of you are singing the song now.

But anyway, YMCA was actually, young men were coming off the farms to find job in industrialized cities and finding all the vices and being destroyed. And so the YMCA says, why don’t you come live here? In fact, that song, Young Man, the words actually are talking about the original purpose of the YMCA, to come and not get in the vices, hear the gospel, become a gospel giver.

And it meant a need, a sociological need at the time, which also was a gospel need. And really what Charlie Kirk didn’t even recognize is at the time, probably, that he was meeting a need. Young people wanting answers, afraid to ask.

And so, you know, for us in this room, you gotta ask yourself the question, what is God leading me to do? In other words, sometimes God will lead you into something that already is created, some ministry that’s already there. But for many of you, you will be pioneers.

And God’s gonna lead you to do something that there is no box. There was no box for Charlie Kirk. There was no template, there was no plan.

man, he just did it. He was driven to do it. And I know for me, there was no minute men.

There was no youth evangelism. When I started, it was just starting on our burden and God creates a box for you. And so the thing I would, for you as a generationalist, understand some of you are going to start to do something seems insignificant, but it may be highly significant.

And so don’t miss the fact that God works to meet the need of your generation. And he may lead you to something that maybe is not everybody else does, but that the moment you get involved in it, you know, the hand of God will be in it. God will do remarkable things.

And even to put some of that.

Bobby Bosler: into perspective. So, okay, that memorial service, how many of you saw some of the memorial service? Okay.

That was a couple hundred thousand people in the stadium. I think maybe a hundred thousand, I don’t remember the exact number, but then millions, millions around the world who not only saw the memorial service. So what?

They see a memorial service. Well, you understand what was so significant about that memorial service, right? The gospel was clearly and powerfully and forcefully declared.

Do you realize probably more people heard the gospel during that memorial service than had ever heard the gospel throughout all of Charlie Kirk’s life? And I think that moment was the biggest gospel declaration at one moment in human history is what I’d heard. And think about it.

It was a guy that God led to do something that had never been done before. It seemed insignificant. It seems small.

It seemed tiny at the moment, but God grew it. And it resulted literally in a meeting where more people heard the gospel at one time than it had ever been before. Probably didn’t seem like that was going to happen when he first showed up on that college campus doing what God had told him the dude hit it.

And that’s one of the reasons why I wanted to bring this up and have us talk about this a little bit, because young people, your surrender today may seem insignificant, but it literally could result in millions of people hearing the gospel, whether it be by life.

Panelist 4: or by death. I don’t know. Do we have any thoughts here on this?

Yeah, real quickly. I think of when Jim Elliot, his four buddies were killed in the jungles there in South America, many people, the lost people said, what a waste of life. And they mocked it, made fun of it.

Well, we’re still talking about Jim Elliot today, but besides that, it spawned a missionary movement and probably many more people were saved as a result of his death and his life. And I think we’d have to say that with Charlie. Many more people will probably be saved as a result of Charlie’s death and his life.

And every young person out here, I remember we had a chapel at BCM probably two decades ago. We preached on that text of the corn and wheat falls in the ground. And we had a prayer meeting, pastor opened it up for, and it was an hour long prayer meeting.

And I have never seen a prayer meeting where young people wept and said, Lord, if my death would bring more than my life, then I’m willing to die for the gospel. And I will tell you friends that that’s where you have to decide right now. Are you willing for your death to bring more souls into the kingdom than.

Panelist 1: your life? I think we have a little taste of what the early church felt like when they killed Stephen. A man whose face shone like an angel, who stood boldly in front of the Sanhedrin and declared the truth, pointed people to Jesus, and they bashed him with stones.

And we’ve been insulated from that for a long time. I think one of the reasons why it impacted me, and I think I could speak for some of these men up here, is that it was very personal because Charlie Kirk was doing what we do. But I’ll tell you what it hit me with.

It hit me with this. I wrote down a couple of thoughts about it. Number one, let me talk to all the youth workers and pastors, youth pastors and parents.

We are not setting the bar high enough for our young people. Let no man despise thy youth. We have got to set the bar higher.

You guys are made for more. You are made for more. So we got to set the bar higher.

And then I’ll just say this. Lastly, I think, and this is a great truth right here, but we have to get into uncomfortable places. I preach the gospel and I preach to a lot of young people, but I just got to be honest, a lot of the young people that I preach at are in the salt shaker.

And we’ve got to get out of our comfort zone. We got to get into uncomfortable places and speak the truth in love. And Charlie Kirk never backed down from the truth, but he always did it with respect.

He respected the individual. I’m done with this thought, but I saw a video of him with a trans girl. And they started to kind of go back and forth on something.

And he stopped and he said, tell me your story. And it was like a bolt of lightning. She stopped, she froze.

She began to tell her story. And it was a story of pain. It’s a story of, of abuse and trauma.

And Charlie Kirk began to talk about that from the perspective of God’s love and grace and what God could do with that. And she walked away from that, not being born again in that moment, but she walked away from that different than she came up to that, Mike. Knowing the truth, but from a man who genuinely loved her.

And I think we’ve got to set the bar higher. We’ve got to get out of our comfortable places, and we’ve got to be able to speak the truth in love as the Lord told us to do.

Panelist 5: Amen. That’s good. That’s good.

Panelist 3: A little different aspect. You know, we’ve talked a lot about absolute surrender. I’ve done a little bit of study of the progression of his life.

It’s very interesting. But when he surrendered to do what he was going to do at your age, he began to be absolutely consumed with growing and learning. Yes.

And he got his life in order. And in fact, he had some personal sin issues. Those got dealt with.

He got stronger and stronger. In fact, what’s so interesting about his life is that he would fully relate to the ministries that you all are from. He had been moving more and more conservative, not just in political, but in what he believed.

Even the memorial service didn’t really represent what he said about many different facets of life in the last year or so. But the thing I was going to mention, it’s just amazing to me how he would read, he would learn, he had mentors, he had men that he was learning from. Every time he heard a question, he found out an answer.

He was very disciplined. He had one day gave his family. He was absolutely given then to the ministry for the rest of the days.

He was very principled, but he was all in to what he was doing. He wasn’t pleasing Charlie Kirk. He had a passion to reach the young generation with the gospel and with the message of conservative principles, and he was devoted to it.

Young people, learn the lesson of full commitment and giving of yourself at this age. If he hadn’t done it as a young man, we would not be talking about him today. He made the decision at your age that life was about reaching this world.

And that’s what God wants for every one of you. Yes, sir. And it’s not like he was miserable learning all.

I mean, he was just loving every minute of growing and learning. And you’ll find when you really surrender to God and get on God’s pathway for your will, it’ll be the best thing in the world. Amen.

Amen.

Panelist 2: Amen. Amen. Amen.

Amen. Yeah. I was just thinking, I saw multiple videos of him saying this.

I have two things I do in life. Number one is I proclaim Christ, proclaim the gospel. Number two is I do what God’s given me as a job and work in the politics, working, you know, moving that.

But he goes, in number two, what I’m doing with the politics, I still share Christ with number one. And if you look at all his videos, obviously we just talked about that. I have to give one time, there was one of his famous videos.

There’s a, she has purple hair, I think, or pink hair, if you’ve seen that one. And she’s very belligerent against Charlie about trans rights and all these things. And very much against the Bible, calls God, mother, God, or mother, whatever, and all these things.

And he gently, you know, she’s saying all these things and he gently turns her. He said, you know, I’m sorry you had such a bad experience. I hope you can come back and be back in the church, whatever else he said.

And then, you know, most people would say, okay, this is, ladies, no, we’re close, whatever, and then be done with the conversation. He said, you know what, let me say something, and proceeded the next minute to fully give the gospel, the whole gospel right there, bam, and gave it right to her. And she walked away.

You could tell it was just, it hit her. And obviously, you don’t ever know what these people are, what’s going to happen. But I just think I’m thinking about all of the last 10 years, all the guys my age and in the and get turning woke, the Southern Baptist movement, the guys that won’t they can’t speak against homosexuality.

They can’t speak against the trans movement. They just they can’t bring themselves to say truth. And then you look at a guy like Charlie Kirk, who literally in front of guys that ultimately killed him calmly, very specifically spoke truth.

and with boldness, where pastors wouldn’t even do it, he did it. And I know it’s been said, but that’s what struck me, and that’s what convicted me. Hugely, my own life for our college students is to be bold with the truth, bold, bold, bold, obviously with love.

And also, can I say something? He knew what he was talking about. Okay, so we talked, Pastor touched on this.

He had the answers. He had answers. He had answers.

He had answers. Okay, you know why he had answers? because he studied these things out.

I’m on the stage with men who I know are studiers. That’s not the right word. They dive into the word of God.

They read, they read, they read. Some of you in here, you haven’t read a book since kindergarten. You know what I’m talking about?

Except for school, maybe some of you, you still aren’t reading, okay? Hopefully you can read, okay? But you know what I’m talking about.

You don’t like to read, you don’t like to study, and maybe some of you in school are going, ah, it’s too hard. What are you supposed to do in life, right? He talked about not going to college.

It wasn’t like he was against college. Did you hear at the memorial service, the guy in charge of Hillsdale said he did 31 classes? 31.

If you knew Charlie Kirk’s schedule, I don’t know how he fit those in there. That’s not 31 like a little hour class. That’s 28 credit hours or 10 credit hours.

It’s unbelievable. I just want to say, if you’re going to go after something, God’s called you to it. Learn it.

Go all the way. We need to have an answer. We have to be able to have an answer.

It can’t just be one guy, one of one, a unicorn somewhere that has all the answers. We can’t just point to a video. We should be able to say the same thing and have the answers in love.

Bobby Bosler: Absolutely. Young people, one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about this is because there are probably many young people in this room who, if you would truly surrender your life to Christ and deal with the sins that are holding you back and say yes to Jesus literally before you’re 22, 25, 30. How old was he?

30? 31. 31 when he passed away.

That’s young. I know it seems old to you all, but that’s actually pretty young. I think all of us up here are older than that.

I’m 30. Water mom. To impact for one man and his death, to impact high profile politicians so much so to the point they stand on a stadium before hundreds of thousands, before the electronic audience of millions and declare the gospel, that is influence.

And that happened because he was surrendered to the Lord, ready to prepare. He wasn’t afraid. As you men were talking, I was just thinking, wow, isn’t that just a great example of what it means to speak boldly and yet with love?

You don’t have to do one or the other. Right. He, he was a living example of the fact that you could do both.

And, um, so, um, I don’t know if there are any other options.

Panelist 2: I’m going to say something on that Proverbs 22, 29. Seest thou a man diligent in his business, he shall stand before kings.

Panelist 5: I know for me, one of the big takeaways is that, you know, as I’ve just looked and dove in a little bit more to, to understand, I knew I was aware of him. I wasn’t engaged at all at Charlie Kirk and his work. But what is, I think my big takeaway is when you know you have the truth, you have no reason to fear.

Yes. Amen. And that’s, or yeah, there’s so much, even the fact that he was willing to sit there with someone across the mic and let them speak and defend their position, and he didn’t have to feel, what if they show that I’m wrong?

He wasn’t worried about that because he knew he had the truth and he had the, because he studied, he was prepared. But when we have the truth, we don’t need to be afraid. And we don’t, sure, let somebody declare what’s, but we have the truth.

So we have what is overcomes the lies. And that to me is one of the big takeaways. And then his brother, Brother Miller, said that he didn’t just try to be in a setting where hopefully lost people and people with questions would come.

He went to those who had the need. And we can build our life. You could try to build a ministry where it’s all about hope those people come.

And it’s not wrong to invite people to come. We should do that. Absolutely.

But what are we doing? What am I doing to actually go to them and to actually get into where those people are? And those to me have been the things I’ve been really thinking through and been challenged and convicted by.

Listen, we have no reason to fear when we have the truth. And just some of those accounts that even, you know, at the memorial service talk about, hey, this, I can no longer guarantee your safety. That’s all right.

We’re going to go in anyway. Where does that confidence come from? Because he had a confidence in God and a confidence in the truth.

And we can have that too.

Bobby Bosler: You know, some of you may have noticed that we, some of you may have noticed we’re doing things a little bit differently here this week, particularly regarding tonight. I’m not going to mention any names to embarrass anybody. but there’s someone who’s in this room as was their passion.

In fact, they talked to me about it earlier this year and I said, yeah, probably not, but they kept on it because they believed that God was going to do something big in it. And I do think there are going to be people saved here tonight as a result. Let’s see young people, when God gives you a vision, when he gives you an idea, when he gives you a glimpse into some way that God could use.

your life, stick to it. Go for it. Go for it, young people.

Go for it. Believe God. Don’t sit back and think I could never do that.

It would never work. Even if an older person like me says, yeah, I’m not sure it’s going to work. If God’s leading you to it, go for it anyway.

Try, what is it? Attempt great things for God, right? Expect great things from God.

Yeah. Amen. Well, praise the Lord.

Well, this has been a good discussion. This has been good. I hope this has been encouraging to you.

I know many of you were aware of him. I just, frankly, there’s a sense in which what we saw both through his life, his death, and then the memorial service. I know even Dr.

Jim and I, as we talked about it some, this stirred us because turning point usa was a youth movement yeah and that youth movement turned into the single biggest gospel rally that’s ever been held in the history of mankind and just think of what god could do through you young people here in this room if you would completely and entirely surrender your lives to Christ.